Comments on: An Open Letter on Juno and Marriage http://juliedemboski.wordpress.com/2008/09/12/an-open-letter-on-juno-and-marriage/ Get AstroUpdates-Follow Me on Twitter! Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:16:58 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Allie http://juliedemboski.wordpress.com/2008/09/12/an-open-letter-on-juno-and-marriage/#comment-1254 Allie Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:51:37 +0000 http://juliedemboski.wordpress.com/?p=436#comment-1254 Thanks Julie. I am just a lowly novice at this. I have been doing a study on several charts. I have a small group of couples who feel that they are twin flames/soul mates and I've been doing the comparison with them as well as my friend and I here. Perhaps I have given too much weight to the Composite and Davidson charts where I find that often times some of those squares and semisquares seem to disappear and a strength between them comes to view. I have also seen some of the couples whose charts look worse than mine that will swear they are spiritual soul mates and deeply in love and happily married. And then another couple whose natal synastry looks pretty good until you do a composite or Davidson on them and you find that Venus conj Saturn conj Sun conj Vertex all inconj Asc and Pallus and the Moon semisq Venus. Then no connection with Juno. But the Synastry looks great. And often there seems to be zero spiritual connection so boy, do I have a lot to learn. And I do get a bit confused with the relationship comparisons. Which combination carries what strength with regard to mid-points and sensitive points and when to use Composite versus Davidson versus Synastry. So I do have so very much to learn. It's a shame about my friend and I the Composite looks good with Saturn trining Venus and Mercury and a nice strong Mystic Rectangle and several grand trines but the truth will out itself always. It's nice to have a professional opinion, at least now I know what to look at. Thank you so much for your help. Allie Thanks Julie. I am just a lowly novice at this. I have been doing a study on several charts. I have a small group of couples who feel that they are twin flames/soul mates and I’ve been doing the comparison with them as well as my friend and I here. Perhaps I have given too much weight to the Composite and Davidson charts where I find that often times some of those squares and semisquares seem to disappear and a strength between them comes to view. I have also seen some of the couples whose charts look worse than mine that will swear they are spiritual soul mates and deeply in love and happily married. And then another couple whose natal synastry looks pretty good until you do a composite or Davidson on them and you find that Venus conj Saturn conj Sun conj Vertex all inconj Asc and Pallus and the Moon semisq Venus. Then no connection with Juno. But the Synastry looks great. And often there seems to be zero spiritual connection so boy, do I have a lot to learn. And I do get a bit confused with the relationship comparisons. Which combination carries what strength with regard to mid-points and sensitive points and when to use Composite versus Davidson versus Synastry. So I do have so very much to learn. It’s a shame about my friend and I the Composite looks good with Saturn trining Venus and Mercury and a nice strong Mystic Rectangle and several grand trines but the truth will out itself always. It’s nice to have a professional opinion, at least now I know what to look at. Thank you so much for your help.
Allie

]]> By: juliedemboski http://juliedemboski.wordpress.com/2008/09/12/an-open-letter-on-juno-and-marriage/#comment-1249 juliedemboski Sat, 29 Nov 2008 03:30:19 +0000 http://juliedemboski.wordpress.com/?p=436#comment-1249 Hi Allie! I assume you're the initial seeker who asked this question, so I took a look at your charts. Though you make some good points, the cherry picking obscures the main picture, which, in my opinion, is that, though there are a few exciting contacts here, there are a lot of squares and sesquiquadrates, especially among the personal planets, and that spells essential discord. The charts also lack enough firm Saturn contact for my taste, as that would spell long-term connection. The outer planets show better cross-chart connections, but this suggests philosophical and world view similarities that can make us think the contacts will flesh out in a more personal way, though this is not supported in the personal contacts. His Juno does sextile your Venus, suggesting that as a woman you are highly appealing to him as a mate, but his Mars lacks support from your placements, and many of the gender related contacts are 'switched,' with your masc. planets contacting his feminine--and this often makes for underlying unease. His Mars in your 1st contributes to the strong pull, but the Moons are sesquiquadrate each other showing basic, continual requirements for adjustment, and your Mars is quincunx his Moon, wherein you might perpetually challenge his emotional reality; as well, your Chiron is opposed his Moon, and that can bring either hurt or healing to the surface. I wish I could offer a more positive picture--it's clear that you're both responding to a handful of strong contacts, but it appears there's little that will result in deep emotional satisfaction, and few long-term possibilities. But then, sometimes reality defies astrology! Best of Luck, and best wishes to you both, Julie Hi Allie!

I assume you’re the initial seeker who asked this question, so I took a look at your charts. Though you make some good points, the cherry picking obscures the main picture, which, in my opinion, is that, though there are a few exciting contacts here, there are a lot of squares and sesquiquadrates, especially among the personal planets, and that spells essential discord. The charts also lack enough firm Saturn contact for my taste, as that would spell long-term connection. The outer planets show better cross-chart connections, but this suggests philosophical and world view similarities that can make us think the contacts will flesh out in a more personal way, though this is not supported in the personal contacts. His Juno does sextile your Venus, suggesting that as a woman you are highly appealing to him as a mate, but his Mars lacks support from your placements, and many of the gender related contacts are ’switched,’ with your masc. planets contacting his feminine–and this often makes for underlying unease. His Mars in your 1st contributes to the strong pull, but the Moons are sesquiquadrate each other showing basic, continual requirements for adjustment, and your Mars is quincunx his Moon, wherein you might perpetually challenge his emotional reality; as well, your Chiron is opposed his Moon, and that can bring either hurt or healing to the surface.

I wish I could offer a more positive picture–it’s clear that you’re both responding to a handful of strong contacts, but it appears there’s little that will result in deep emotional satisfaction, and few long-term possibilities. But then, sometimes reality defies astrology!
Best of Luck, and best wishes to you both,
Julie

]]> By: Allie http://juliedemboski.wordpress.com/2008/09/12/an-open-letter-on-juno-and-marriage/#comment-1245 Allie Sat, 29 Nov 2008 02:02:03 +0000 http://juliedemboski.wordpress.com/?p=436#comment-1245 Hi Julie, I've been trying to determine why there is such an intense push-me, pull-you effect going on here. I can see where the attraction comes from with his Sun conj my Asc and North node and the Venus sq. Moon on both sides with his Moon and my Venus being a critical cardinal point. Then his Sun/Moon midpoint hits my Venus on one side and Neptune on the other, along with a lot of other good contacts. I guess I was wondering if his Saturn opp my Mercury or if his Juno opp my Zeus is the push me part of this situation. Me:4.1.54 Passaic, NJ 2:10am Him: 1.13.79 Phoenix, AZ 8:00am. Hi Julie, I’ve been trying to determine why there is such an intense push-me, pull-you effect going on here. I can see where the attraction comes from with his Sun conj my Asc and North node and the Venus sq. Moon on both sides with his Moon and my Venus being a critical cardinal point. Then his Sun/Moon midpoint hits my Venus on one side and Neptune on the other, along with a lot of other good contacts. I guess I was wondering if his Saturn opp my Mercury or if his Juno opp my Zeus is the push me part of this situation.

Me:4.1.54 Passaic, NJ 2:10am Him: 1.13.79 Phoenix, AZ 8:00am.

]]> By: Trish http://juliedemboski.wordpress.com/2008/09/12/an-open-letter-on-juno-and-marriage/#comment-934 Trish Thu, 09 Oct 2008 17:20:25 +0000 http://juliedemboski.wordpress.com/?p=436#comment-934 Thank you Julie for your response and for taking a look....Juno can be tricky! Trish Thank you Julie for your response and for taking a look….Juno can be tricky! Trish

]]> By: juliedemboski http://juliedemboski.wordpress.com/2008/09/12/an-open-letter-on-juno-and-marriage/#comment-931 juliedemboski Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:47:56 +0000 http://juliedemboski.wordpress.com/?p=436#comment-931 Hi Trish, I don't use secondary progressions except to check timing, for the most part. I took a quick look at your chart--with Juno in the 7th relationship may be a big focus for you. One may be coming forward as early as late November, and you have a window of about 1 1/2 years when something significant is possible (SA Venus to N Jupiter). But then, you did read the article, right? The biggest lesson is, don't pin your relationship hopes on Juno! Best of luck, Julie Hi Trish,

I don’t use secondary progressions except to check timing, for the most part. I took a quick look at your chart–with Juno in the 7th relationship may be a big focus for you. One may be coming forward as early as late November, and you have a window of about 1 1/2 years when something significant is possible (SA Venus to N Jupiter). But then, you did read the article, right? The biggest lesson is, don’t pin your relationship hopes on Juno!

Best of luck,
Julie

]]> By: Trish http://juliedemboski.wordpress.com/2008/09/12/an-open-letter-on-juno-and-marriage/#comment-930 Trish Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:49:38 +0000 http://juliedemboski.wordpress.com/?p=436#comment-930 Hi....My birthday is Nov. 29, 1959 2:28pm (New York).My progressed Juno is conjunct my natal Jupiter in Saggitarius (with a Scorpio cusp/6th house progressed), and my progressed Saturn is in Capricorn (with a Sagg cusp/7th house progressed)....they are all in the same degree....does this indicate marriage? Or involvement with someone who is married? Would love to know! Thank you, Trish Hi….My birthday is Nov. 29, 1959 2:28pm (New York).My progressed Juno is conjunct my natal Jupiter in Saggitarius (with a Scorpio cusp/6th house progressed), and my progressed Saturn is in Capricorn (with a Sagg cusp/7th house progressed)….they are all in the same degree….does this indicate marriage? Or involvement with someone who is married? Would love to know!

Thank you,

Trish

]]> By: satori http://juliedemboski.wordpress.com/2008/09/12/an-open-letter-on-juno-and-marriage/#comment-807 satori Wed, 17 Sep 2008 00:58:57 +0000 http://juliedemboski.wordpress.com/?p=436#comment-807 and I had to come back to let you know how very much I appreciate the time and energy you expended on our charts. I truly understand what a valuable gift you gave me. thank you! <em>You're very welcome!</em> and I had to come back to let you know how very much I appreciate the time and energy you expended on our charts. I truly understand what a valuable gift you gave me. thank you!

You’re very welcome!

]]> By: juliedemboski http://juliedemboski.wordpress.com/2008/09/12/an-open-letter-on-juno-and-marriage/#comment-805 juliedemboski Wed, 17 Sep 2008 00:49:02 +0000 http://juliedemboski.wordpress.com/?p=436#comment-805 Thanks, Lara--glad to know things are as good as they look in the chart! And Thank You--if after you get the book you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Thanks, Lara–glad to know things are as good as they look in the chart!

And Thank You–if after you get the book you have any questions, feel free to contact me.

]]> By: satori http://juliedemboski.wordpress.com/2008/09/12/an-open-letter-on-juno-and-marriage/#comment-802 satori Wed, 17 Sep 2008 00:27:26 +0000 http://juliedemboski.wordpress.com/?p=436#comment-802 oh thank you so much Julie! with neptune on my DC it's so hard for me to know if my positive thoughts on the relationship are real or just illusion! truly, thank you. I'm going to copy this into a document so I can soothe my hologram fears when they pop up again! I really should listen to my heart more; he is so very good to me. I'm looking forward to getting the above-linked book from amazon. I had it shipped by slow boat around the cape, I believe. ;) oh thank you so much Julie! with neptune on my DC it’s so hard for me to know if my positive thoughts on the relationship are real or just illusion! truly, thank you. I’m going to copy this into a document so I can soothe my hologram fears when they pop up again! I really should listen to my heart more; he is so very good to me.

I’m looking forward to getting the above-linked book from amazon. I had it shipped by slow boat around the cape, I believe. ;)

]]> By: juliedemboski http://juliedemboski.wordpress.com/2008/09/12/an-open-letter-on-juno-and-marriage/#comment-801 juliedemboski Wed, 17 Sep 2008 00:13:39 +0000 http://juliedemboski.wordpress.com/?p=436#comment-801 Oops! Sorry--I didn't see your second post until after I finished--but it was fun to look at your charts--most pairings don't contain as many strong and sympathetic cross-chart aspects as yours Thanks for sharing! Julie Oops! Sorry–I didn’t see your second post until after I finished–but it was fun to look at your charts–most pairings don’t contain as many strong and sympathetic cross-chart aspects as yours

Thanks for sharing!
Julie

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